The 9-11 Truth Movement Is A Waste Of Time

From the afternoon of the attack til now, I’ve been convinced that the official line about 19 hijackers was BS.  Watching the news coverage from my job at Bank of America, I saw them broadcast the names and photos of the 19 that afternoon.  Since this was a logical impossibility, having the photos and IDs of the hijackers so quickly, I knew that there was a scam in the works.  Many smaller pieces of evidence since have only reinforced the power of common sense exercised the day of the event.  I don’t claim to know who did what or any of that unified conspiracy knowledge stuff peddled by some that lays blame at the feet of this or that international cabal.  It was an inside job and a coverup which means that powerful people were and still are involved.

All of that being said, something else is also as obvious as the fact that the attacks were an inside job.  The 9-11 Truth Movement is a colossal waste of time and energy.  Things like this, coverups of this magnitude are rarely uncovered.  This isn’t my opinion, this is a fact.  And perhaps I shouldn’t have written that because that’s not the most important thing.  The important thing is that even if it was uncovered, it wouldn’t matter.  No one would believe it.  This is as obvious as was the fake nature of the attack and subsequent coverup.

This country is collapsing and has been for some time now.  Economically, militarily, socially.  These are not new revelations.  Anyone that has been following the deconstruction of the manufacturing sector for the past 30 years knows this.  Or anyone that has ever examined white privilege and white racism must at least have a hint regardin the US’ cancerous social decay.  And militarily, well the military has become an almost complete mercenary outfit.  With much of it contracted out to outright mercenary gun-for-hire agencies and most of the remainder professional gun for hire types who will follow much any order, no matter how immoral or illegal.  So the country has long been in decline.  The 9-11 Truth Movement people are generally underdeveloped and quite naive politicos–I shouldn’t even call them politicos because the problem is that they have a very limited understanding of what politics, the economy of power, even is.  And the way that they are conducting themselves in the wake of 9-11 is all the evidence one needs to prove my charges against them.

The 9-11 Truth Movement is almost completely white and male.

This isn’t to say that non-whites don’t get 9-11.  We do.  In my opinion, much more often than do US whites (on percentage).  But the nature of the 9-11 Truth Movement makes it so that no actual organizing can or will happen around it.  When I say the nature or character of the movement, I’m referring to its singularity of intention, purpose and focus.  Most of the white men occupying the 9-11TM space are folks that haven’t been really political before in their lives.  Everyone has opinions so this isn’t to say that they haven’t been thinkers, quite the contrary.  There is a lot of interesting thought, investigation and analysis in the 9-11TM.  But politics, inevitably is about action and the progressive political actors (speaking in groups,now) in the United States for the past century have not been white males.  White males, as a group have not, in significant percentages, been involved in any mass movement in the past century.

This is not my opinion.  This is a fact.  And if anyone sees this as being incorrect I would love to see the evidence and hear about the historical movement that I missed.  So this is the correct context through which to understand the white and male composition of the 9-11TM.  As a group of people with no historical movement experience and no willingness to (as a group) embrace the parallel struggles of historically oppressed sectors of the US population.  This aspect of the character of the 9-11TM is, in the end, what makes it a complete waste of time.  It alienates groups of people, oppressed groups, by focusing narrowly on 9-11 (and perhaps abolition of the Federal Reserve, lol) and either ignoring altogether or at best prioritizing lowly, historical struggles against the same oppression represented by the attacks of 9-11.

Initially, I found myself in the ranks of the 9-11TM.  But it didn’t take long for me to realize that the alienating nature of this group, if I allowed myself to become too closely associated with it and consumed by it, would be of hindrance to political work I do in other arenas.  Not because of the label of conspiracy theorist or other slanders.  Black people have been dealing with that garbage from white America for a hundred years.  Literally.  So not because of that but because the 9-11TM is seen as a movement led by white guys who don’t get the intersectionality of oppression, folks that think the world will move on whatever issue they decide to take up this year.  That is not how the economy of power operates.  That is not how politics works.  We need a real movement.

Real movements understand the nuances of the issues of the people composing the movement.  The 9-11 truthers, again mostly white guys, are far, far, far from understanding this.  They think that if they can shout loud enough, proving that 9-11 was an inside job, people, the masses is the term they use, will rise up and see the system for what it is.  This approach taps into the same naivety expressed by the ‘Who-Shot-Kennedy’ crowd.  This sophomoric approach represents not a break from the oppressive nature of politics in this society but is a reinforcement and affirmation of the blinders of privilege, the reason the white 9-11TM can’t break out of the rut it finds itself in.  And the reason most of the white guys that read this will simply dismiss all that I have to say.

I am enraged about 9-11.  But I’m also enraged that 4-5 million people have died in the past 6 or 7 years in the wars being fought in the Democratic Republic of Congo and the world doesn’t give a shit.  I’m enraged about those millions of lives too.  I’m enraged that 3 and 4 year old kids from South and Central America are hiding in the Georgia woods because immigration officers have kidnapped their parents from work, effectively orphaning these invisible children.  I’m enraged about that.  Grady Memorial Hospital here in Atlanta is being starved of funds and then ‘rescued’ by the same people that were starving it, so that they can take over the operation of it and cut off services benefiting the downtown Atlanta (mostly black) poor.  They are doing the same thing to Grady that they do to public education.  The same thing that they are doing to MARTA.  The same thing that they have done to every public institution in the South since the 60s when integration meant those institutions had to serve non-whites as well.  So I’m enraged and spittin mad about a lot of things.  The intersection of all these things and many more issues is the only place that we will forge the movement that will bring about substantive change in all these areas.

Until the white guys constituting (and dominating) the 9-11TM understand this at a gut level, it will remain the movement hardly worthy of the name and a colossal waste of time.

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15 Responses to “The 9-11 Truth Movement Is A Waste Of Time”

  1. digtheheavy Says:

    Don’t give up….It’s weird because the story I am going to link you to was in my google alerts under “Treason” just ahead of yours. Yours of course was under google alerts “9/11 truth.”

    I have felt much the same as you even to the point of feeling that stench of death in the air. But as I said this story came just b4 yours so read it.

    In the below story it is evident that there are people taking legal action against the government as we speek.

    U.S. Supreme Court Denies Certiorari – Definition of Certiorari
    for Landmark Right to Petition Case
    Constitutional Crisis Escalating
    Coming: Appropriate Next Steps………Full Story Here http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/2008/01/16/us-supreme-court-also-in-complicity-with-constitutional-treason/

  2. […] Must Not Give Up Posted on January 16, 2008 by digtheheavy The 9-11 Truth Movement Is A Waste Of Time From the afternoon of the attack til now, I’ve been convinced that the official line about 19 […]

  3. Quote:

    “Initially, I found myself in the ranks of the 9-11TM. But it didn’t take long for me to realize that the alienating nature of this group, if I allowed myself to become too closely associated with it and consumed by it, would be of hindrance to political work I do in other arenas. Not because of the label of conspiracy theorist or other slanders. Black people have been dealing with that garbage from white America for a hundred years. Literally. So not because of that but because the 9-11TM is seen as a movement led by white guys who don’t get the intersectionality of oppression, folks that think the world will move on whatever issue they decide to take up this year. That is not how the economy of power operates. That is not how politics works. We need a real movement.

    “Real movements understand the nuances of the issues of the people composing the movement. The 9-11 truthers, again mostly white guys, are far, far, far from understanding this. They think that if they can shout loud enough, proving that 9-11 was an inside job, people, the masses is the term they use, will rise up and see the system for what it is. This approach taps into the same naivety expressed by the ‘Who-Shot-Kennedy’ crowd. This sophomoric approach represents not a break from the oppressive nature of politics in this society but is a reinforcement and affirmation of the blinders of privilege, the reason the white 9-11TM can’t break out of the rut it finds itself in. And the reason most of the white guys that read this will simply dismiss all that I have to say.”

    As a white male with more than a passing interest in 911 truth, I agree wholeheartedly with this essay.

    A 911 truth group has recently started in my town, and even though the population here is almost equally mixed, the group is almost completely comprised of white, middle class males, most certainly privileged to have what they do, yet they still whine that they are not ‘being heard’ and of course, the obligatory crying about how heavily they are taxed. Did I mention that they are mostly Ron Paul supporters? This is the primary reason I have disassociated myself with them…second is the shortsightedness of the larger issues; things in our society that allowed 911 to even happen in the first place.

    Excellent essay. Thanks for writing this; I hope more people have a chance to see it.

  4. Thanks for commenting. The fates of regular working folks of every political and ethnic persuasion are tied together. We can’t afford to diss each other’s struggles. The 9-11 Truth Movement is perhaps the most extreme example of everything that is wrong with single issue advocacy.

  5. michaelhey Says:

    Here’s where you’re missing the point:

    If you want to live in a world of peace and social justice, then you have to dare to dream it into existence. You have to believe that such a world can exist.

    It cannot exist without 9/11 Truth. That’s a significant piece of the puzzle. The Truth Movement is easy to support. All you have to do is speak the truth and confront the lie. (You’re already doing it anyway, in spite of the criticism).

    You point out that black people are more likely to get 9/11 than white people. There’s no mystery there. Anyone who occupies a position of privilege in this society has a vested interest in maintaining the lie – even if it requires self-delusion. There’s no need to divide the movement or to turn this into a racial thing. Amongst white people, there’s the same breakdown. Working class people get 9/11 while University educated professionals are clueless (those who aren’t pretend to be).

    I’m not rich and I’m not poor, but I’ve always been deeply grateful for all that I have. As a white male, I’d be happy to trade in this position of privilege for a peace and global justice. And yes, the things that enrage you enrage me too. (I’m Canadian, so that shifts our relative perspective, but only slightly).

    If you really want change, then you need something that can jar the psyche of the type of individual who truly believes that America is synonymous with all that is good and pure in this world. 9/11 can have that impact – that’s why so many reasonably sane individuals are resisting the obvious with such incredible might. If 9/11 truth did not have the potential to turn this society inside out ordinary Americans wouldn’t be so scared of it.

    9/11 is a battle worth fighting because it is a battle we cannot afford to lose. Fortunately, it is also a battle we are destined to win, because the evidence is powerful and undeniable.

    Truth is never a waste of time because truth matters in its own right. Truth is never a single issue because it pervades all issues.

    PS. Check out Yukihisa Fujita in the Japanese parliament – if you haven’t already seen it:
    http://www.911video.de/ex/jap111.htm

  6. You’re arguing against straw. No one is questioning whether or not truth is a waste of time. The 9-11 Truth Movement is a waste of time. The 9-11TM isn’t an abstract idea to be waxed eloquently over. It is an actual group of people making real decision that are either good or bad. They have a bad analysis and therefore make bad political decisions making the movement a waste of time.

    You would do well, to spend your time at their websites talking to them. Telling them to show up at an immigrants rights march in their town or at fights against destruction of public housing or ally with groups opposing police brutality of black males. See the kind of lukewarm reaction you get from the 9-11 truthers and then you’ll understand why as a movement, not as an issue, but as a movement, it is complete waste of time and energy.

  7. michaelhey Says:

    “Things like this, coverups of this magnitude are rarely uncovered. This isn’t my opinion, this is a fact. And perhaps I shouldn’t have written that because that’s not the most important thing. The important thing is that even if it was uncovered, it wouldn’t matter. No one would believe it. This is as obvious as was the fake nature of the attack and subsequent coverup.”

    That’s the part of the original essay I disagree with. In a sense, 9/11 has already been uncovered. The trick now is making people believe it. It can be done, and when this is accomplished, it will benefit everyone. It won’t create a utopia overnight, but it will improve all our lives. There is no worthy cause I can think of, that will not benefit directly from 9/11 truth.

    You point out that we should not be dissing each others’ struggles. Isn’t that what you’re doing by labeling the 9/11 truth movement a waste of time – you’re dissing this particular struggle.

    I’m one of the directors of Vancouver 9/11 Truth. I don’t recall us ever getting down on anybody else’s struggle. When a Polish immigrant was tasered to death at Vancouver Airport, we made our outrage known. I don’t think any of the causes you mention would receive a lukewarm reception by our group. The only limiting factor is the extent of our energy. No one can be all things to all people. We’re just trying to make our contribution in this one small way.

    We try to align ourselves most closely with issues that feel intimately related to 9/11 truth. We oppose the SPP and the NAU. We oppose Canada’s involvement in Afghanistan, and the use of Depleted Uranium. We oppose Canadians’ pension money being invested in Halliburton. We oppose lies and deceit – especially by elected officials and members of the mainstream media. And of course we campaign for an independent international investigation into 9/11.

    Not all groups are equally happy to be associated with us. MAWO (Mobilization Against War and Occupation) openly opposes us. The War Resisters seem to like us more, but they consider it politically unwise to align themselves with 9/11 truth. Organizers of the gay pride parade welcomed us with open arms.

    You separate the cause and the movement. To me the movement is nothing more and nothing less than those of us who have chosen to embrace the cause. It transcends race, transcends nations and certainly transcends the political choices of any particular cluster of truth activists in any particular part of the world.

    As a movement we’re not perfect, but we deserve support. You may have other avenues in which to direct your energy which benefit your community more immediately and more directly, and that’s fine. All I’m saying is that we’re on the same side, and there’s need to try and knock each other down.

    http://heymichael.wordpress.com/

  8. Michael,

    I’ll make this short because I don’t want this thread to consume too much energy. The original post speaks for most everything I have to say on this. I have had this discussion with people like yourself many times so I thought I would just lay out my thoughts and be done with it.

    Folks have been struggling for a hundred years around various issues. White guys, almost the entire 9-11TM have largely been absent from all of these struggles. That is the point. Like most white guys I have discussed this with, you too seem to miss that major point. Everything you said is true. The only people who seem to not understand it are the folks, the white men particularly, occupying the 9-11TM.

    Follow me?

    It’s not about opposing the cause, it is the political sophistication, or lack thereof, of those most stridently advocating for the cause. The 9-11TM doesn’t get how the world actually works. They think the same way that most folks think when that moment in life comes. Something big happens that turns their worldview right side up. At that point, they come out of the cold of not being political or supporting the struggles of others and think that everyone should get behind this thing that rocked their world. Idealistic as it might be, the world just doesn’t work that way.

    Here is the crux though. When most folks, do this, they usually quickly see that the world doesn’t work this way, at which point they either go back to watching television or they join in the popular struggles that they had previously been ignoring or ignorant of or just not turned on by.

    White guys, on the other hand, don’t relent to this reality. For several reasons, which I won’t go into at the moment, they press on, still refusing to join in and get behind the leadership of other movements in order to build the force of the overall struggle against oppression. White guys think they can come out of the cold and lead. It doesn’t work.

    And the isolation of the 9-11TM is proof positive that it doesn’t work.

  9. michaelhey Says:

    You’ve given me lots to ponder. For that I thank you.

    You’re right, white men have not been prominent in social justice struggles around the world. A possible exception was the peace movement in the sixties that eventually led to the end of the Vietnam war. We’ve also played a small but meaningful role in the fight to save this planet from ecological collapse.

    The reason we haven’t be prominent is that we’re the ones who’ve been fucking everybody over for the past two thousand years. But I also see people everywhere waking up to the fact that we’ve hit a wall. We’re ready to come to terms with the reality that it’s got to end.

    I don’t want to misquote you, but perhaps what you’re really saying is that when it comes to struggle, white males have a serious credibility issue. If that’s the bottom line, then I couldn’t agree with you more.

    In the case of 9/11, all we’re saying is that we refuse to accept the lie. To have credibility in this particular movement, all that’s needed is honesty. If you’re honest, you’re credible. If you’re a liar you’re out. As long as they’re honest, even white males qualify for participation in this movement.

    On a purely individual level, humans have been acting in similar fashion all around the world for ages. We’re born into a certain circumstance and then we go through life and take what we can get. Now we’re starting to see the end result of century upon century of human greed – and we’re all paying a price.

    I’m sorry that I keep droning on. I’m not trying to drain your energy, or to get the last word in. My only reason for writing one more time is to set the record straight on this one particular thing: Speaking for myself, personally, I have no desire to be a “leader” in any kind of movement. One day, when 9/11 truth has left it’s mark on the pages of history, my name will not be a part of the record – and that’s totally fine by me. I believe we all need to take ownership of our own lives. We need to be our own leaders.

    Thanks again for taking the time out to engage in this exchange. I think the exercise has been worthwhile, and I’ve taken the liberty of adding a link to this thread on my own blog – I hope that’s cool.

    Choose your battles and never give up. I’m with you all the way, and I welcome the world that we’re trying to build.

    In Peace and Solidarity

    Michael

  10. I didn’t mean to imply that I didn’t want to dialog with you. That’s the only thing the net is really good for and I believe dialog of this manner to be a good thing. We need inter-struggle solidarity. That is the only way our people power will ever rival their money and thought control capabilities. So far the 9-11TM doesn’t understand this and demands people get on board with 9-11 (and many of the people already are on board) without getting on board with other struggles.

    If you look at the 9-11TM population, you’ll find that many of them, unfortunately, are Ron Paulers and other similarly oriented folks. These people, I believe, are disproportionately loud in the movement. And as I’m sure you know, they are opposed to about every other popular struggle out there, as they claim to abhor collectivism. This is only one thing but it makes solidarity difficult if not impossible at this point.

  11. Great post Marc, you’ve given me a lot to think about, and Michael too, I can relate to a lot of what you’ve said in these comments.

  12. One of the FEW people involved in 9-11 Truth who “gets” the whole issue is Ralph Schoenman. Check him out on YouTube at Cooper Union, and on http://www.takingaimradio.com.

    He’s not a “pretty face”, not as good-looking as even Ralph Nader, and he’s old now, but he’s also still vigorous.

    But Ralph has also been involved in African struggles, Latin American struggles, Palestinian struggles, Sabra and Shatilla, Cuba and Che, New York City, housing struggles, Mumia, and has been imprisoned many times.

    He has also outed the CIA and explained what the CIA is to many people, some of that shit is amazing.

    People who don’t know that stuff generally “support the government” without question. It’s not a matter of race, per se, but white people in America and elsewhere have often been offered privilege at the expense of others, hence less personal motivation to rise up.

    And yes, Ron Paul is counter-revolutionary and he’s FOR the BANKERS who he implies that he opposes. He recently told Bernanke as much. Let “the Market” set interest rates, i.e. let the banks that “own” the Fed and IMF and World Bank run things with no govt oversight.

    Does anyone here NOT know that Bank of America attempted a secret merger with BCCI in the 80’s, BCCI being basically the “International Bank of Al-Qaeda” created by a former CIA director Helms?

  13. check this out…

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